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Old 06-11-2005, 10:38 PM
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F1 Diesel Power
is it possible ?
i`m a novice in tech area of F1 and i`d like to ask profs of Diesel Engines
were they in F-1 someday or is it possible to be ?
how about lower costs etc, that FIA fights for ?
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btw. GearBox
what type(s) of GearBoxes are in common use in F-1
in 2005
in 2000
in 1995
in 1990
Where can i find info of main gearbox changes since 1990 ?
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Old 06-11-2005, 10:42 PM
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GearBox - SemiAutomat, oke i know this, but i`d like to know more details
what does "along" or "transversale" means
or "opposite" - is it about GearBox or Engine ?

Maybe you know good site with easy tech explains ?
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I don't think that Diesel engines in F1 are viable because Diesel engines are less powerful, yet better fuel economy. F1 is the pinnacle of Motorsports and who would want the musical high-pitched scream of a Grand Prix engine replaced with the sound of a 900 Horse Power Mack Truck.
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who would want the musical high-pitched scream of a Grand Prix engine replaced with the sound of a 900 Horse Power Mack Truck.


he he

last week I sat in my friends Merc E class diesel CDI engine
I must say I didnot felt any difference as with Petrol car not on outside & inside

common rail technology is a blessing for diesel engines
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Old 06-12-2005, 04:02 AM
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Thanx for info !

... how of GearBox info or site ?
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Hey KUP,

With reference to your Q's the definition in normal cars of transverse and in-line refers to the engine. If you open the bonnet of your car you will note that the engine block " the biggest bit" runs either from front to back (in-line) or from side to side (transverse) in the engine compartment. This does have implications on the position of the gearbox.

With reference to the gearbox of an F1 car, you are quite correct they do use a semiautomatic 7 speed box. This means that there is no clutch perse for the driver to worry about. It is all computer controlled to ensure A: optimum revs and B: that the traction control is possible (this stops the wheels spinning too much).

Now then diesels in F1. Hmm.
I don't actually think that this will happen, not because it isn't technically feasible ( just look at the Jaguar SDi ) but because the money that it would take to create such cars would be staggering, even by F1 standards.

Just a note: One other thing to take into consideration is the fact that an F1 cars also does not use standard Unleaded like your car. The fuel that they use is much thinner than petrol (closer to aircraft fuel) because it is easier to burn. This means that the usual analogy to road cars is quite inappropriate.

PS I'll try and find a technical site for F1 cars for you.
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Much thanx Macman,
i just wondering "diesel" as part of FIA policy in slowering cars =)
afaik - diesel has less Revs, Fuel is cheaper ... maybe other "plusses"
and maybe "minuses" too =)
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"This means that there is no clutch perse for the driver to worry about"

and how about Start and those under-steeringwheel "big-buttons"
i cal them "steering ears" just like wheel is a face =)
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F-1 Rules - does Diesel engines prohibited ?
why ? since what year ?
what are main achivements of diesels in F-1 if any ?
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"This means that there is no clutch perse for the driver to worry about"

and how about Start and those under-steeringwheel "big-buttons"
i cal them "steering ears" just like wheel is a face =)

I have just done a post in the technical BMW starts thread that could well answer this.
That is provided it makes sense, which it probably doesn't.
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